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#1
Feedback/Suggestions / Sydney City v St George Sydney...
Last post by Paul Carter - 28 March, 2024, 03:30:06 PM
I just thought I would let you know. In the game between Sydney City and St George at the Sydney Football Stadium on May 9, 1997.
-That Adrian Lam was the Channel 9 Nokia Player of the Match.
-Sydney City Lead 12-6 at Halftime.
-Sorry to point this out. I notice in that game for Sydney City. That you have Jacin Sinclair Wearing No. 3. Matt Sing Wearing No. 4. Greg Bourke Wearing No. 5. Terry Hermansson Wearing No. 8. Jason Lowrie Wearing No. 10. Scott Gourley Wearing No. 11. Luke Ricketson Wearing No. 12. Nathan Wood Wearing No. 14. David Barnhill Wearing No. 15. Scott Logan Wearing No. 17.
-Also for St George. You have Colin Ward Wearing No. 8. Tony Hearn Wearing No. 10. Andrew Tangata-Toa Wearing No. 11. Jim Lenihan Wearing No. 14. Corey Pearson Wearing No. 15. Brad Smith Wearing No. 16.
-These are the Numbers all those Players Wore for Sydney City and St George in that game.
-Sinclair Wore No. 20. Sing Wore No. 3. When they both played Centre for Sydney City in that game.
-Bourke Wore No. 22. When he played Winger for Sydney City in that game.
-Hermansson Wore No. 10. Lowrie Wore No. 8. When they both played Front-Row for Sydney City in that game.
-Gourley Wore No. 12. Ricketson Wore No. 11. When they both played Second-Row for Sydney City in that game.
-Wood Wore No. 15. Barnhill Wore No. 47. Logan Wore No. 29. When they all came off the Bench for Sydney City in that game.
-Ward Wore No. 10. Hearn Wore No. 8. When they both played Front-Row for St George in that game.
-Tangata-Toa Wore No. 16. When he played Second-Row for St George in that game.
-Lenihan Wore No. 17. Pearson Wore No. 14. Smith wore No. 29. When they all came off the Bench for St George in that game.
#2
Feedback/Suggestions / Balmain v Sydney City Leichhar...
Last post by Paul Carter - 27 March, 2024, 03:52:39 PM
I just thought I would let you know. In the game between Balmain and Sydney City at Leichhardt Oval on May 4, 1997.
-That Balmain Lead 10-4 at Halftime.
-Sorry to point this out. I notice in that game for Balmain. That you have Chris McPherson Wearing No. 14. Shane Walker Wearing No. 16. Asa Milford Wearing No. 17.
-Also for Sydney City. You have Peter Clarke Wearing No. 5. Ben Duckworth Wearing No. 14. Scott Logan Wearing No. 15. Nathan Wood Wearing No. 16.
-McPherson Wore No. 16. Walker Wore No. 14. Milford Wore No. 30. When they all came off the Bench for Balmain in that game.
-Clarke Wore No. 21. When he played Winger for Sydney City in that game.
-Duckworth Wore No. 23. Logan Wore No. 29. Wood Wore No. 15. When they all came off the Bench for Sydney City in that game.
#3
Feedback/Suggestions / Sydney City v South Sydney Syd...
Last post by Paul Carter - 26 March, 2024, 04:27:09 PM
I just thought I would let you know. In the game between Sydney City and South Sydney at the Sydney Football Stadium on April 26, 1997.
-That Sydney City Lead 22-0 at Halftime.
-Darrell Trindall was South Sydney Captain.
-Sorry to point this out. I notice in that game for Sydney City. That you have Ivan Cleary Wearing No. 1. Robert Miles Wearing No. 5.
-Also for South Sydney. You have Deann Amos Wearing No. 17.
-Cleary Wore No. 5. When he played Fulback for Sydney City in that game.
-Miles Wore No. 19. When he played Winger for Sydney City in that game.
-Amos Wore No. 22. When he came off the Bench for South Sydney in that game.
#4
Feedback/Suggestions / Re: Some Wikipedia errors
Last post by Max Turner - 24 March, 2024, 10:45:22 AM
Yes, good catch, W Grotte (William) would be Robert's brother. William was born 29 June 1916 and died 16 April 1976.

Also with the note you put on Robert's page, I apologise for my typo. It should read "Alice Suslikova (or Suslicova)" instead of Sulikova.
#5
Feedback/Suggestions / Re: Some Wikipedia errors
Last post by GregRLP - 24 March, 2024, 01:25:28 AM
I have updated these.

Whiticker's Encyclopedia & Collis' AtoZ both list Tom as Haywood also I added a note about his father.

Robert Grotte I have added notes that his DOB is uncertain also the story about his parents.

Also a W Grotte probably Robert's brother William played with him for the Marist Brothers team against the touring Combined Sydney City team in 1939 at  Auckland.
#6
Feedback/Suggestions / Re: Sam Griffiths father and s...
Last post by GregRLP - 24 March, 2024, 12:52:38 AM
Updated.
#7
Feedback/Suggestions / Some Wikipedia errors
Last post by Max Turner - 24 March, 2024, 12:28:12 AM
Lin Johnson's DOB should be 5 September 1913 in Quirindi, NSW. His full name was Lindsay Adolphus Johnson. He was the brother of Dick Johnson.

Tom Haywood should be Hayward. He was born 14 July 1913 in Tweed Heads, NSW, and died on 20 August 1989. His full name is Thomas William Hayward. Tom Hayward and Percy Fairall were brothers-in-law.
↪ His name is sometimes Tom Haywood, but I'd say the majority of sources are Hayward, including the genealogy records. I'm curious if he is 'Haywood' in Whiticker's work as the Wikipedia page references it without mentioning the discrepancy.
↪ And perhaps an interesting note for his page because Google brings up a handful of results for his father: Son of skiff champion William "Billo" Hayward.

Charles Rice was born 14 March 1909 in Bexley, NSW, and died on 1 April 1962. His full name was Charles Frederick Rice Jnr.

Stan Robinson was born 4 April 1911 in Brisbane, Qld, and died on 28 April 1995. His full name was Stanley Herbert Robinson.

Robert Grotte died on 15 December 1964. His full name was Robert Michael Grotte.
↪ Just a comment on his DOB: A DOB of 11 December 1913 was added to his Wikipedia page by an anonymous user on 27 March 2020. This now also appears on the NZRL site, but I fear the Wikipedia addition pre-dates it... Would it be possible to put something like "DOB uncertain, circa 1912 or 1913" onto his profile? (His age is slightly inconsistent between being 26 when the Kiwis toured in June 1938 and 51 when he died in December 1964). I haven't found Robert's birth record so it makes it harder to combat the potential misinformation by putting the correct date on RLP.
↪ Robert's parents were likely Michael Grotte (or Grotto) and Alice Sulikova (or Suslicova), both Russians, who were unmarried and faced difficulties being 'aliens' in NZ (see here, here and here). Their other son William was born in 1916 but his birth was not registered until 1930. Robert's birth could either be unregistered, or under some spelling variation which makes it difficult to find (the NZ BDM site doesn't seem to allow wildcard searches to catch spelling variations, which is a pain).
↪ Anyway, there's definitely an interesting story to be told there. But it might require putting some $ into buying records to learn more. There's an editor on Wikipedia who is prolific for writing NZ RL biographies, but he hasn't really added much for Robert. Perhaps they're struggling to find information too.
#8
Feedback/Suggestions / Sam Griffiths father and son d...
Last post by Max Turner - 23 March, 2024, 10:44:21 PM
Sam Griffiths (Glebe) was born on 23 June 1886 in Petersham, NSW, and died on 20 March 1938. His full name was Samuel Griffiths.

Sam Griffiths (South Sydney) was born on 18 May 1913 in Mascot, NSW, and died on 11 July 1967. His full name was Samuel Walter Griffiths.

The Glebe player was the father of the South Sydney player.
#9
Feedback/Suggestions / Re: 1935 Balmain players
Last post by GregRLP - 23 March, 2024, 10:22:19 PM
All updated, you are correct with Bert Williams he was in the NSW team that went to Qld not Bill Williams so I have fixed that as well.
#10
Feedback/Suggestions / 1935 Balmain players
Last post by Max Turner - 23 March, 2024, 06:26:28 PM
- Bill Alexander was born in Balmain, NSW, and died on 26 June 1993. His full name was William Henry Alexander.
- Bill Ballard was born 18 March 1907 in Marrickville, NSW, and died on 11 April 1960. His full name was William Clarence Henry Ballard.
- Edmund Beaver's full name was Edmund Francis Beaver. He was born in Cobar, NSW and died on 21 July 1993.
- George Bishop died on 1 May 1972.
- Some minor corrections for Syd Christensen: His full name was Sydney Henry Albert Christensen and he was born in Glebe, NSW. Also, he was the uncle of Ted Brennan.
- Stephen Cooper was born 21 January 1913 in West Wyalong, NSW, and died on 29 June 1961. His full name was Stephen William Cooper.
- George Frankland was born 19 June 1906 in Balmain, NSW, and died on 17 October 1988. His full name was George Broughton Frankland, and his nickname was Pudden.
- Sid Goodwin was born in Balmain, NSW. He died on 24 March 1980.
- Frank Griffiths was born in Geelong, Vic.
- Francis Horth should be Frank Horth. His full name was Frank Edmund Horth. He was born 4 March 1910 in East Hills, Sydney, NSW, and died on 2 July 1975. [NB: Nearest location currently on the site for birthplace is Canterbury, NSW, where his birth was registered].
- Ern Latta's full name was Ernest Frederick Latta. He was born 13 July 1912 in Balmain, NSW, and died on 26 August 1979.
- Michael Pace's full name was Michael Henry Pace. He was born in Senglea, Malta, and died on 26 October 1960.
- Jack Redman was born in Canterbury, NSW, and died on 5 July 1945. His full name was John Robert Walter Redman.
- Gordon Sykes was born 7 September 1912 in Haberfield, Sydney, NSW, and died on 28 July 1995. His full name was Gordon Harold Sykes. [NB: Somehow there are no Haberfield births already on the site. In the meantime, his birth was registered in Ashfield, NSW.]
- Bill Williams was born 9 May 1909 in Balmain, NSW, and died on 16 July 1988. His full name was William Joseph Williams.
- Herbert Woodbry was born 5 March 1908 in Tenterfield, NSW, and died on 3 October 1987. His full name was Herbert Edward Woodbry, and his nickname was Bert.
- H Wright is listed as such in teamlists but he is referred to by his nickname Mick in articles (see here, and other mentions here and here). He was born 20 November 1911 in Petersham, NSW, and died on 2 October 1983. Mick's full name was Harold Alfred Wright.

And just a comment on Bill Williams, I think the 1937 NSW Firsts appearance vs Clarence River should be Bert Williams, who was playing for Bombala at that time. B. Williams of Bombala was selected as a reserve for the preceding match against Queensland, and The Sun reported that B. Williams played in the second-row against Clarence River. The confusion here probably also coming from the fact that Bill was typically a second-rower and Bert a centre.