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General Category => Feedback/Suggestions => Topic started by: Azkatro on 25 November, 2024, 08:37:42 AM

Title: Possible correction to Dally Messenger/Dan Frawley
Post by: Azkatro on 25 November, 2024, 08:37:42 AM
Morning Gents.

Received this on email from the Roosters club historian Alan Katzmann, he is generally pretty solid but this one I woud like some extra eyes to help confirm. He says:

QuoteBeen meaning to bring this to your attention for some time. In this Round 7 Easts v Glebe match RLP has winger Dan Frawley kicking his only career field goal. Rugby League Tables does not have that but has Dally Messenger kicking two goals (instead of one).

https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seasons/nswrfl-1910/round-7/glebe-vs-eastern-suburbs/summary.html

https://afltables.com/rl/scorers/games/191007.html#0910

Rugby League Annual has always had Dally's carer club points as 381 whilst RLP has had him on 379. Looks as if this is the two points missed by RLP and that Dan Frawley didn't kick that field goal.
Title: Re: Possible correction to Dally Messenger/Dan Frawley
Post by: GregRLP on 25 November, 2024, 10:20:25 AM
Every newspaper The Evening News, The SMH, Sunday Times, The Sun, Sunday Sun, Referee all state Frawley kicked a field goal some even state Messenger passed him the ball.

The source of the confusion appears to be the Referee which although stating Frawley kicked a field goal it then in the details section credits Messenger with 2 goals and Frawley none. See attached snippets from the Referee and also other reports from papers.

I think little doubt Frawley kicked the field goal.
Title: Re: Possible correction to Dally Messenger/Dan Frawley
Post by: GregRLP on 25 November, 2024, 07:22:21 PM
Just did an audit on Dan Frawley RLP had credited him with an 2 extra tries we had him with 56 tries but he only scored 54 he was credited with 4 tries in round 3 1909 but he only scored 2 and Mick Frawley scored 2 and in round 13 1910 in some papers he is credited with 3 tries but the newspaper reports describing play all say Mick Frawley scored a try so he should have 2 which RLP was correct with but other sources have credited him with 3 for a total of 55 career tries.

He should have in the Premiership 54 tries, 20 goals & 1 field goal for a total of 204 points.