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Feedback/Suggestions / Re: More University players
Last post by Max Turner - 25 April, 2024, 08:57:35 PMSome more University players from this period:
- Bill Brewer was born in Maitland, NSW.
- Griffith Duncan, born 22 July 1914 in Kurri Kurri, NSW, died 15 April 1988. Full name was Griffith Hammond Duncan. He was the brother of Rees Duncan Sr and uncle of Rees Duncan.
- Geoff Gartner, born 16 June 1913 in Canterbury, NSW, died 10 June 1999. Full name was Geoffrey Louis Gartner.
--Geoff was a first cousin of Joe Gartner, and therefore a first cousin, once removed of Ray, Clive, Keith, and Jim Gartner, and a first cousin, twice removed of Daniel and Russel Gartner.
--On Joe Gartner's profile, Jim should be Joe's nephew, not his son.
- Jim Gregan, born 3 June 1911 in Maclean, NSW, died on 3 June 1964. Full name was Owen James Gregan.
- Ross McKinnon's DOB should 12 April 1914 in Oberon, NSW.
- Rod O'Loan's full name should be Roderick John Charles O'Loan.
- Frank O'Rourke was born 18 January 1906 in Morpeth, near Maitland, NSW. He is the same person as AF O'Rourke who played for Other Nationalities (Frank was playing for Leeds at this time)
-- The 1921-22 Balmain fullback appears to have been a different person, J O'Rourke. Frank would've been aged 15-16 at this time.
- R Pedler was Rex Pedler, born 12 January 1913 in Adelaide, SA, died on 24 January 1943. Full name was Rex Angus Arthur Pedler. Pedler was discharged from the RAAF as medically unfit in September 1942 and subsequently died of tuberculosis four months later.
- D Peel was Don Peel, born 19 March 1912 in Sydney, NSW, died on 2 September 1970. Full name was Donald Alfred Peel.
- L Trives was Leslie Trives, born 23 October 1909 in Woollahra, NSW, died on 23 September 1963. Full name was Leslie John Trives.
- Frank Spillane, born 24 June 1903 in Balmain, NSW, died 30 October 1986. Full name was Francis Joseph Spillane.
- Jack Spillane, born 5 October 1908 in Petersham, NSW, died 23 August 1988. Full name was John Bernard Spillane.
-- Frank and Jack Spillane were brothers. They were also first cousins, once removed of J. J. Giltinan.
-- It might make sense to create a profile for Giltinan (even though he was never a player or coach) just to document this family connection? We could add a bio for Giltinan in the future.
-- If so, his details are: born 30 August 1866 in Sydney, NSW, died 6 September 1950. Full name was James Joseph Giltinan.
- R Frew was Rupert Frew, born 27 September 1912 in Forbes, NSW, died 16 November 1976. Full name was Rupert Lindsay Frew.
- Francis Lions, born 30 November 1901 in Perth, WA, died 13 March 1972. He is the same person as F Lyons who played for University in 1922.
- Dick Lynch, born 9 May 1912 in Chatswood, NSW, died 14 October 2003. Full name was Richard Charles Lynch. He was a nephew of Charlie Lynch.
- H Milligan was Herbert Milligan, born 6 April 1911 in Waverley, NSW, died 2 April 1956. Full name was Thomas Herbert Milligan.
- Tom Monaghan, born 26 November 1904 in Port Macquarie, NSW, died 10 October 1988. Full name was Thomas Patrick Monaghan.
- Ray Morris' full name was Ray Benjamin Morris.
- Bill Brewer was born in Maitland, NSW.
- Griffith Duncan, born 22 July 1914 in Kurri Kurri, NSW, died 15 April 1988. Full name was Griffith Hammond Duncan. He was the brother of Rees Duncan Sr and uncle of Rees Duncan.
- Geoff Gartner, born 16 June 1913 in Canterbury, NSW, died 10 June 1999. Full name was Geoffrey Louis Gartner.
--Geoff was a first cousin of Joe Gartner, and therefore a first cousin, once removed of Ray, Clive, Keith, and Jim Gartner, and a first cousin, twice removed of Daniel and Russel Gartner.
--On Joe Gartner's profile, Jim should be Joe's nephew, not his son.
- Jim Gregan, born 3 June 1911 in Maclean, NSW, died on 3 June 1964. Full name was Owen James Gregan.
- Ross McKinnon's DOB should 12 April 1914 in Oberon, NSW.
- Rod O'Loan's full name should be Roderick John Charles O'Loan.
- Frank O'Rourke was born 18 January 1906 in Morpeth, near Maitland, NSW. He is the same person as AF O'Rourke who played for Other Nationalities (Frank was playing for Leeds at this time)
-- The 1921-22 Balmain fullback appears to have been a different person, J O'Rourke. Frank would've been aged 15-16 at this time.
- R Pedler was Rex Pedler, born 12 January 1913 in Adelaide, SA, died on 24 January 1943. Full name was Rex Angus Arthur Pedler. Pedler was discharged from the RAAF as medically unfit in September 1942 and subsequently died of tuberculosis four months later.
- D Peel was Don Peel, born 19 March 1912 in Sydney, NSW, died on 2 September 1970. Full name was Donald Alfred Peel.
- L Trives was Leslie Trives, born 23 October 1909 in Woollahra, NSW, died on 23 September 1963. Full name was Leslie John Trives.
- Frank Spillane, born 24 June 1903 in Balmain, NSW, died 30 October 1986. Full name was Francis Joseph Spillane.
- Jack Spillane, born 5 October 1908 in Petersham, NSW, died 23 August 1988. Full name was John Bernard Spillane.
-- Frank and Jack Spillane were brothers. They were also first cousins, once removed of J. J. Giltinan.
-- It might make sense to create a profile for Giltinan (even though he was never a player or coach) just to document this family connection? We could add a bio for Giltinan in the future.
-- If so, his details are: born 30 August 1866 in Sydney, NSW, died 6 September 1950. Full name was James Joseph Giltinan.
- R Frew was Rupert Frew, born 27 September 1912 in Forbes, NSW, died 16 November 1976. Full name was Rupert Lindsay Frew.
- Francis Lions, born 30 November 1901 in Perth, WA, died 13 March 1972. He is the same person as F Lyons who played for University in 1922.
- Dick Lynch, born 9 May 1912 in Chatswood, NSW, died 14 October 2003. Full name was Richard Charles Lynch. He was a nephew of Charlie Lynch.
- H Milligan was Herbert Milligan, born 6 April 1911 in Waverley, NSW, died 2 April 1956. Full name was Thomas Herbert Milligan.
- Tom Monaghan, born 26 November 1904 in Port Macquarie, NSW, died 10 October 1988. Full name was Thomas Patrick Monaghan.
- Ray Morris' full name was Ray Benjamin Morris.
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Feedback/Suggestions / Bill Johnstone (Past Christian...
Last post by Paul Carter - 25 April, 2024, 11:38:51 AMI just thought I would let you know. In regards to Bill Johnstone who played Five-Eigth for Past Christian Brothers against Newtown in the Amco Cup in 1978.
-He is also Billy Johnstone who played for Canterbury, St George and Gold Coast.
-He is also Billy Johnstone who played for Canterbury, St George and Gold Coast.
#3
Feedback/Suggestions / North Sydney v Manly North Syd...
Last post by Paul Carter - 25 April, 2024, 09:42:58 AMI just thought I would let you know. In the game between North Sydney and Manly at North Sydney Oval on June 18, 1967.
-That the Penalties were 23-8 Manly's way.
-That the Penalties were 23-8 Manly's way.
#4
Feedback/Suggestions / Newtown v Penrith Henson Park ...
Last post by Paul Carter - 24 April, 2024, 02:12:00 PMI just thought I would let you know. In the game between Newtown and Penrith at Henson Park on June 17, 1967.
-That Bob Lanigan had 6 Attempts at Goal.
-Bob Landers had 5 Attempts at Goal.
-That Bob Lanigan had 6 Attempts at Goal.
-Bob Landers had 5 Attempts at Goal.
#5
Feedback/Suggestions / Re: 1935 Canterbury players
Last post by GregRLP - 22 April, 2024, 11:49:19 PMThanks Max well researched as always these have now been updated.
I have given the 3 games for Balmain in 1933 to S Sharp and removed Alfred Wellington's nickname Duke it would be highly unlikely there are 2 A Wellington's nicknamed Duke and Alfred was still playing lower grades with Newtown in 1941 so couldn't be playing in Leeton.
I have given the 3 games for Balmain in 1933 to S Sharp and removed Alfred Wellington's nickname Duke it would be highly unlikely there are 2 A Wellington's nicknamed Duke and Alfred was still playing lower grades with Newtown in 1941 so couldn't be playing in Leeton.
#6
Feedback/Suggestions / 1935 Canterbury players
Last post by Max Turner - 21 April, 2024, 10:38:41 PMI've found there are quite a few errors on the old thebulldogs website, including the first names of some players (with that said, there is also some good information on there). I suspect there are more Canterbury players of this era who have been misnamed.
- Fred Brighten should be Fred Brighton. He was born in 1913 in Mildura, Victoria, and died on 30 September 1981. His full name was Frederick Murray Brighton.
- Charlie Cant should be Clyde Cant (see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). He was born 23 February 1907 in Gundary, near Goulburn, NSW, and died on 23 March 1957. His full name was Arthur Cyril Clyde Cant.
- Tom Carey was born 20 January 1912 in Prescot, England, and died on 20 June 1992. His full name was Thomas Sylvester Carey.
- Harry Courtney was born 11 October 1908 in Canterbury, NSW, and died on 6 December 1936. His full name was Harold William Herbert Courtney.
- Vince Dwyer should be Vic Dwyer (7). He was born 5 April 1909 in Murrurundi, NSW, and died on 7 April 1968. His full name was Victor Bede Dwyer.
- Harry Hall was born in Penrith, NSW. He died in 2003. His full name was Harry Dalton Hall.
- Bill Joass was born 5 July 1909 in Lakemba, NSW. He was the son of Wests' William Joass and nephew of Alf Joass (William and Alf were brothers).
- Roy McCallum's date of death should be 15 November 1979.
- Jack McConnell was born 27 March 1910 in Redfern, NSW, and died on 7 November 1985. His full name was John James McConnell.
- Malcolm McPhillips should be Mick McPhillips (8, 9, 10, 11). I couldn't find a Malcolm or a Michael McPhillips that fits the bill, so I suspect 'Mick' might be a non sequitur from his real name, like Harry 'Mick' Kadwell. Mick's nickname appears to have been Midget (12), which seems consistent with source [10] calling him 'diminutive'.
- Jack Morrison's DOB should be 26 July 1905 in Murwillumbah, NSW. His full name was John Harold McKay Morrison.
- Barry Neville should be Bert Neville (13, 14, 15). He was born 7 November 1912 in Ipswich, Qld, and died on 27 October 1992. His full name was Albert Tighe Neville. He passed the referee's examination in 1941 (16).
- Joe Sharp was born in Murrurundi, NSW. His full name was Evley Joseph Sharp. He was married to his wife Violet for 77 years and 256 days until his death. She died in 2008, aged 101.
-- The 3 Balmain (1933) games attributed to Joe appear to have been a different person, who was listed as L Sharp (17), S Sharpe (18), or S Sharp (19). This player joined Balmain from Easts (20), and it appears we have him as S Sharp on the site.
- Alan Wellington should be Alfred Wellington (21). He was born 1912 in Brunswick (Melbourne), Victoria, and died on 11 April 1993. His full name was Alfred Francis Wellington.
-- I'm not sure that the nickname Duke is correct for Alfred. There is an A. Wellington playing five-eighth for Leeton in September 1940 (22), and this player is referred to as "Duke" Wellington in July 1941 (23). I can't find any evidence that Alfred Wellington, who played for Canterbury and Newtown as a forward, was the five-eighth at Leeton.
- Fred Brighten should be Fred Brighton. He was born in 1913 in Mildura, Victoria, and died on 30 September 1981. His full name was Frederick Murray Brighton.
- Charlie Cant should be Clyde Cant (see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). He was born 23 February 1907 in Gundary, near Goulburn, NSW, and died on 23 March 1957. His full name was Arthur Cyril Clyde Cant.
- Tom Carey was born 20 January 1912 in Prescot, England, and died on 20 June 1992. His full name was Thomas Sylvester Carey.
- Harry Courtney was born 11 October 1908 in Canterbury, NSW, and died on 6 December 1936. His full name was Harold William Herbert Courtney.
- Vince Dwyer should be Vic Dwyer (7). He was born 5 April 1909 in Murrurundi, NSW, and died on 7 April 1968. His full name was Victor Bede Dwyer.
- Harry Hall was born in Penrith, NSW. He died in 2003. His full name was Harry Dalton Hall.
- Bill Joass was born 5 July 1909 in Lakemba, NSW. He was the son of Wests' William Joass and nephew of Alf Joass (William and Alf were brothers).
- Roy McCallum's date of death should be 15 November 1979.
- Jack McConnell was born 27 March 1910 in Redfern, NSW, and died on 7 November 1985. His full name was John James McConnell.
- Malcolm McPhillips should be Mick McPhillips (8, 9, 10, 11). I couldn't find a Malcolm or a Michael McPhillips that fits the bill, so I suspect 'Mick' might be a non sequitur from his real name, like Harry 'Mick' Kadwell. Mick's nickname appears to have been Midget (12), which seems consistent with source [10] calling him 'diminutive'.
- Jack Morrison's DOB should be 26 July 1905 in Murwillumbah, NSW. His full name was John Harold McKay Morrison.
- Barry Neville should be Bert Neville (13, 14, 15). He was born 7 November 1912 in Ipswich, Qld, and died on 27 October 1992. His full name was Albert Tighe Neville. He passed the referee's examination in 1941 (16).
- Joe Sharp was born in Murrurundi, NSW. His full name was Evley Joseph Sharp. He was married to his wife Violet for 77 years and 256 days until his death. She died in 2008, aged 101.
-- The 3 Balmain (1933) games attributed to Joe appear to have been a different person, who was listed as L Sharp (17), S Sharpe (18), or S Sharp (19). This player joined Balmain from Easts (20), and it appears we have him as S Sharp on the site.
- Alan Wellington should be Alfred Wellington (21). He was born 1912 in Brunswick (Melbourne), Victoria, and died on 11 April 1993. His full name was Alfred Francis Wellington.
-- I'm not sure that the nickname Duke is correct for Alfred. There is an A. Wellington playing five-eighth for Leeton in September 1940 (22), and this player is referred to as "Duke" Wellington in July 1941 (23). I can't find any evidence that Alfred Wellington, who played for Canterbury and Newtown as a forward, was the five-eighth at Leeton.
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Feedback/Suggestions / South Sydney v North Sydney Sy...
Last post by Paul Carter - 19 April, 2024, 03:19:48 PMI just thought I would let you know. In the game between South Sydney and North Sydney at the Sydney Football Stadium on July 27, 1997.
-That North Sydney Lead 20-8 at Halftime.
-Darrell Trindall was South Sydney Captain.
-Sorry to point this out. I notice in that game for South Sydney. That you have Michael Francis Wearing No. 17.
-Also for North Sydney. You have Paul Stringer Wearing No. 17.
-Francis Wore No. 27. When he came off the Bench for South Sydney.
-Stringer Wore No. 25. When he came off the Bench for North Sydney in that game.
-That North Sydney Lead 20-8 at Halftime.
-Darrell Trindall was South Sydney Captain.
-Sorry to point this out. I notice in that game for South Sydney. That you have Michael Francis Wearing No. 17.
-Also for North Sydney. You have Paul Stringer Wearing No. 17.
-Francis Wore No. 27. When he came off the Bench for South Sydney.
-Stringer Wore No. 25. When he came off the Bench for North Sydney in that game.
#8
Feedback/Suggestions / Newcastle v South Sydney Newca...
Last post by Paul Carter - 18 April, 2024, 03:23:04 PMI just thought I would let you know. In the game between Newcastle and South Sydney at the Newcastle International Sports Centre on July 13, 1997.
-That Newcastle Lead 6-0 at Halftime.
-Darrell Trindall was South Sydney Captain.
-Sorry to point this out. I notice in that game for South Sydney. That you have Brett Gillard Wearing No. 13. David Penna Wearing No. 14. Michael Francis Wearing No. 16. Willie Peters Wearing No. 17.
-Gillard Wore No. 16. When he played Lock for South Sydney in that game.
-Penna Wore No. 17. Francis Wore No. 27. Peters Wore No. 24. When they all came off the Bench for South Sydney in that game.
-That Newcastle Lead 6-0 at Halftime.
-Darrell Trindall was South Sydney Captain.
-Sorry to point this out. I notice in that game for South Sydney. That you have Brett Gillard Wearing No. 13. David Penna Wearing No. 14. Michael Francis Wearing No. 16. Willie Peters Wearing No. 17.
-Gillard Wore No. 16. When he played Lock for South Sydney in that game.
-Penna Wore No. 17. Francis Wore No. 27. Peters Wore No. 24. When they all came off the Bench for South Sydney in that game.
#9
Feedback/Suggestions / Re: Round 3 Craven Mild Cup 19...
Last post by GregRLP - 18 April, 2024, 12:26:40 AMYes, the language used would indicate he started the game normally if they highlight a players performance they mostly indicate if he was a replacement at some point or not in the match which they don't, the Sun Herald used similar language in their praise of Charlton.
#10
Feedback/Suggestions / Re: Round 3 Craven Mild Cup 19...
Last post by Ted Baxter - 17 April, 2024, 11:14:30 PMAgreed. But is this the article that says Charlton played the whole game?