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1930s St George players details

Started by Max Turner, 10 October, 2023, 10:29:29 PM

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GregRLP

I have sent an email off to St.George to see if I get a response detailing our findings.

Max Turner

- Jack Eason, born 16 August 1912 in Gilgandra NSW. Full name John Hurley Eason.
- Colin Fitzpatrick, born 19 May 1915 in Balmain NSW, died 17 September 1965. Full name Colin Grant Fitzpatrick. Brother of Balmain's Gerald and Dudley Fitzpatrick.
- Jim Flower's nickname was Chuck.
- Reg Hopkinson, born 17 February 1917 in Bowenfels, near Lithgow NSW, died 13 March 1986. Full name Herbert Reginald Hopkinson.
- Eric Hughes, born 20 January 1913 in Ipswich QLD, died 11 August 2012. Full name Eric Walter Hughes.

- Charlie Hyland is referred to as such in Rugby League News (1), or otherwise as P. Hyland (2, 3), B. Hyland (due to the nickname "Blue": 4), or his actual name Cecil or Ces Hyland (5, 6).
- I think he should be Ces Hyland, born 5 February 1904 in Moree NSW, died 11 May 1977. Full name Cecil Isaac Cooper Hyland. Nickname was Blue, or apparently Charlie.

- Lance Ireland, born 24 May 1912 in Cooroy, near Noosa QLD, died 12 March 1966. Full name was Lancelot John Ireland. He was also known as John Henry Lancelot Ross-Ireland.
- Harry Kadwell's DOB should be 1 December 1902 in Surry Hills NSW. (Wikipedia at play there I think...)
- Bill Killiby was born in Balmain NSW.
- Tom Killiby's DOB should be 7 October 1897.
- St George's Jack Lynch, born 15 December 1913 in Annandale NSW, died 24 June 2006. Full name John Francis Lynch.
- Norm Pritchard, born 19 January 1908 in Newtown NSW, died 30 November 1971. Full name Norman William Pritchard.
- Reg Schuman's DOB has come from Wikipedia, so I don't believe it is correct. I haven't been able to confirm the exact date, only that he was born in 1908 (not 1909) in Hurstville NSW.
- Norm Tipping's DOB should be 11 January 1913 (instead of the 10th) and his DOD should be 10 March 2002 (instead of the 11th).
- George Ward's DOB should be 11 January 1910 (instead of 4 August).

GregRLP

Thanks Max I have updated all of these I have removed Reg Schuman's DOB and just left it as 1908.

Max Turner

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Quote from: GregRLP on 17 July, 2024, 04:16:05 PMI have sent an email off to St.George to see if I get a response detailing our findings.
If you haven't heard back about Neville Hardy, I think we can probably go with: born 10 October 1918 in Rockdale NSW, died 7 August 2004. Full name Neville Caton Hardy.

Quote from: Max Turner on 20 July, 2024, 02:44:19 PM- Lance Ireland, born 24 May 1912 in Cooroy, near Noosa QLD, died 12 March 1966. Full name was Lancelot John Ireland. He was also known as John Henry Lancelot Ross-Ireland.
Lance Ireland's alternative name gets cut off in the full name field. Might be better suited to the Additional Notes?

Quote from: GregRLP on 20 July, 2024, 10:54:58 PMThanks Max I have updated all of these I have removed Reg Schuman's DOB and just left it as 1908.
It appears Reg's unreliable/inaccurate DOB of 31 January wasn't deleted from his profile as intended.

- In the same way, Eastern Suburbs and St George player Norm Pope's DOB has come from Wikipedia so I doubt its accuracy. I haven't been able to confirm the exact date, only that he was born in 1908 in Melbourne, Vic. Full name Norman Daniel Pope.

- Alan Boler should be Allan Boler, but Alan is also common in newspapers. Born 27 November 1911 in Armidale NSW, died 31 July 1978. Full name Allan Ernest Boler.
- Hilton Curran, born 15 November 1914 in Adelong NSW, died 31 May 1987. Full name Hilton Matthew Curran, and nickname was Snowy.
- Alex Ringland, born 8 May 1913 in Port Macquarie NSW, died 14 September 2001. Full name Alexander Hamilton Ringland.
- Dave Ross, born 29 October 1917 in Sydney NSW, died 25 April 1998. Full name David Eric Ross.
- Jim Schuback, born 24 February 1912 in Bega NSW, died 14 October 1965. Full name Wallace Joseph Schuback.
- St George's Neil Whittaker, born 7 June 1916 in Oatley NSW, died 25 January 1971. Full name Neil Shepherd Whittaker.

GregRLP

Thanks Max should all be correct now.

Heard nothing back from St.George I didn't expect that I would so I have updated Neville Hardy with your details and added a note that his 2 games are in some cases credit to Nelson Hardy but we believe it to be Neville.

I assume Allan Boler is related to the Boler's who played in North Coast teams in the 20's & 30's.

Are Jack & Jim Schuback brothers as both born in Bega?


Max Turner

Quote from: GregRLP on 03 September, 2024, 02:42:12 PMI assume Allan Boler is related to the Boler's who played in North Coast teams in the 20's & 30's.
Yes, all brothers.

- C Boler was Cecil Boler. Born 25 July 1906 in Rockdale NSW, died 9 March 1983. Full name Cecil James Boler.
- H Boler was Harry Boler. Born 5 April 1907 in Rockdale NSW, died 13 August 1976. Full name Henry Joseph Boler.

Quote from: GregRLP on 03 September, 2024, 02:42:12 PMAre Jack & Jim Schuback brothers as both born in Bega?
Yes, they were brothers.

GregRLP


Max Turner

- Tim Allen, born in Rockdale NSW. Full name Francis Joseph Allen.
- Jack Bates, born 18 February 1916 in Brisbane QLD, died 2 January 1974. Full name William Jack Bates.
- Tom Crew, born 21 January 1908 in Arncliffe NSW, died 13 June 1976. Full name Harold Thomas Moverley Crew.
- Jack Eason's DOB should be 16 August 1912 (instead of 6th).
- Gordon Hart's death date should be 3 April 2009 (instead of 16th, which was his funeral).
- Stan Lawes, born 6 April 1909 in Annandale NSW, died 13 August 1983. Full name Stanley Royal Lawes.
- Arthur Lawes, DOB should be 29 January 1884 (instead of 19th). Born in Penrith NSW. Full name Arthur Edwin Sherwin Lawes. Father of Stan Lawes.
- Ray Lindwall's death date should be 23 June 1996 (instead of 22nd).
- Jack Osborne, born 5 January 1917 in Marrickville, died 10 July 1996. Full name Jack Percival Thomas Osborne. Nickname was Turk.
- Reg Phipps, born 21 July 1906 in Paddington NSW, died 12 June 1976. Full name Reginald Teverill Phipps.
- Dave Ross' DOB should be 29 October 1917 (instead of 22nd).

GregRLP


Max Turner

#24
- Tim Allen, full name Francis Joseph Allen.
- Jack Charles, born 7 June 1916 in Goulburn NSW, died 1 August 1998. Full name John Leslie Wentworth Charles.
- Jack Lonard, born 29 August 1909 in Lakemba NSW, died 19 May 1979. Full name John Thomas Lonard.
- E Neary's first name was Ern. Born 24 August 1907 in Sydney NSW, died 11 April 1986. Full name Ernest Thomas Neary.
- R McPherson's first name was Reg. Born 28 October 1906 in Orange NSW, died 4 August 1968. Full name Reginald Joseph McPherson. Captured in Greece and held by German forces as a prisoner of war for four years during WWII.
- C Skinner was known as Jerry Skinner. Born 23 June 1908, died 21 December 1961. Full name Cyril Alfred Skinner.
- J Stathers' first name was Jack. Born 25 August 1910, died 13 August 2007. Full name John Robert Stathers. Father of Johnny Stathers
- St George's A Williams' first name was Arthur. Born 8 April 1902 in Temora NSW, died 24 March 1948. Full name Arthur Leo Williams. Nickname was Spider.

GregRLP