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1935 Newtown players

Started by Max Turner, 20 March, 2024, 11:18:46 PM

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Max Turner

- John Alleyne was born in Glebe, NSW. His nickname was Jack, and his full name was John Placid Alleyne. He was also a first-class cricketer for NSW.
- W Curry was known as Bill Curry.
- Jack Davies (Newtown) was born on 8 September 1909 in St Peters, NSW, and died on 5 September 1984. His full name was Jack Longridge Minister Davies. His brother was Hylton Davies.
- Allan Ellis' birthdate should be 16 November 1908.
- Keith Ellis' birthdate should be 6 June 1905.
- Joe Gartner was born in Marrickville, NSW. His full name was Joseph Samuel Gartner.
- Les Hession was born on 29 January 1909 in Milton, NSW, and died on 28 July 1955. His full name was Leslie Elvin Hession.
- Frank Hurley was born on 7 June 1915 in Paddington, NSW, and died on 31 May 1992. His full name was Francis Clyde Lamond Hurley.
- Gordon McLennan was actually born on 30 January 1914 in Hay, NSW. His full name was Gordon Douglas McLennan.
- Aub Oxford was born on 31 October 1914 in Rockdale, NSW. His full name was Aubrey Oxford.
- Alf Spring was born on 13 May 1911 in Sydenham, NSW, and died on 7 November 1988. His full name was Alfred Walter James Spring.
- Clarrie Stevenson was born on 11 December 1909 in Waterloo, NSW, and died on 28 May 1984. His full name was Clarence Stevenson.
- Merv Whale was born on 1 March 1916 in Gulgong, NSW, and died on 16 April 1979. His full name was Mervyn Dudley Whale.

GregRLP

Interesting that some of the birthdays we had were so far out looks like Wikipedia at work again.

I have now updated all of these.👌

Max Turner

Some more Newtown players from a few years prior:

- Ernest Cadman should be Eddie Cadman (see here and here). Born 2 July 1909 in St Peters, NSW, died 4 January 1955. Full name was Edward Robert Cadman.
- Eddie was the father of Leo Cadman, who should actually be Les Cadman. Les' full name was Raymond Leslie Cadman, and he died on 18 July 2014.

- Jack McReavie: born 12 August 1911 in Sydney, NSW, died 19 September 1998. Full name was John McReavie.
- Roy Parkinson: born 6 June 1908 in Camperdown, NSW (not 1909), died 27 June 1972. Full name was Roy Allen Parkinson.
- Stan Waterson: born 19 September 1910 in Glebe, NSW, died 5 December 1988. Full name was Stanley Thomas Waterson.

- Eric Mork: born 13 October 1912 in Carlton, Victoria, and died on 17 June 1991.
- Hans Mork: born in 1909 in Cape Town, South Africa, and died on 22 January 1960. Full name was Hans Eric Mork.
- Hans Mork is similar to Robert Grotte in that I can't find his birthday to disprove the one listed on Wikipedia, but there is probably good reason to doubt Wikipedia for this.
- Charlie Mork: born 1906 in South Africa, and died on 3 August 1986. Full name was Carl Frederick Mork.
- Eric, Hans, and Charlie Mork were brothers.

GregRLP

Thanks Max these are all updated.

Max Turner

Some more:

- Lou Boyd (Newtown), L Boyd (NSW Country, Newcastle, ect), L Boyd (New England), L Boyd (Newcastle) all appear to be the same person. I think his name should be Lew Boyd, although lots of newspaper called him Lou.
- Note the Newtown profile 'Lou Boyd' contains the bio from Alan Whiticker.
- He earned rep selection while playing in Scone, Newcastle, and Kempsey in various stints. I think the reason the 'L Boyd' profiles were separated was because he played in different positions in different periods.
- His details are: born 22 April 1909 in Scone NSW, and died on 22 June 1978. Full name was Lewis Boyd, nickname was Streaker.

- Charlie Brown: born 12 July 1911 in Berry NSW, died 21 August 1990. Full name Charles Ernest Brown, nickname was Tiddles.
- Jack Danzey (the elder)'s DOB should be 8 March 1917. Born in Newtown NSW, died 26 July 2004. Full name John Joseph Danzey.
- Alf Griffiths should be Arthur Griffths (see here and here): born 30 October 1912 in Hurlstone Park NSW, died 2 August 1945. Full name Arthur Norman Griffiths.
- Harry Hamilton: born 15 December 1908 in Waterloo NSW, died 31 March 1976. Full name Harry Thomas Graham Hamilton.
- Jack Huxley: born 15 August 1912 in Sydney NSW, died 1 September 1985. Full name Jack Lindsay Huxley. He was the brother-in-law of Arch Crippin.
- Henry Porter: born in Dungog NSW. Death should be 5 February 1990. Full name Rupert Henry Porter.

- Billy Sands: born 17 November 1917 in Cargo (Canowindra) NSW, died 30 December 1976. Full name Henry William Sands.
- Keith Sands: born 27 November 1915 in Orange NSW, died 24 July 2001. Full name Joseph Keith Sands.
- Jimmy Sands: born 20 March 1919 in Cargo (Canowindra) NSW, died 6 November 1945. Full name James Lynn Sands.
- Jimmy served in WWII under the alias Larry James Kelly and was a POW for four years after being captured in Greece in May 1941. He returned to Australia in August 1945, and tragically died in a car accident in Melbourne just three months later.
- Billy, Keith, and Jimmy Sands were brothers.

- Just a comment from a research perspective for posterity: I'm not sure why he enlisted under an alias, but his service file makes it clear it's him. The birthday is the same (although he has changed the year to 1917), and his next of kin was Elsie Sands (his mother) and H Sands (his wife Hazel). He was under the age of 21 upon enlistment so makes sense why he lied about his age, but that would've been fairly common so doesn't really explain the alias in my opinion. His funeral notice uses his real name but also references the alias.

- Athol Stewart: born in Bombala NSW, died 7 June 2001. Full name Athol Neville Stewart.
- Jack Thornton: born 14 August 1905 in Newtown NSW, died 4 October 1996. Full name John Phillip Thornton, nickname was Bluey.

GregRLP

Thanks again Max great research.

I have updated all I have fixed Lew Boyd and consolidated the 4 entries to one, I have also included your comments on Jimmy Sands.

Max Turner

- Walter Anderton, born in Sydney NSW. Full name Walter William Anderton.
- Les Bull's DOB should be 6 July 1899 in St Peters NSW.
- Bernie Burford, born 1 December 1918 in Junee NSW, died 11 September 2000. Full name Bernard Francis Burford.
- Albert Catt, born 10 July 1918 in Sydney NSW, died 12 March 1984. Full name Albert Laurence Catt. Son of William Catt.
- Fred Christensen should be Frank Christensen (Frederick is one of his middle names, but newspaper mentions all appear to be as Frank). Born 2 April 1918 in Glebe NSW, died 6 August 2000. Full name Francis William Frederick Christensen. Brother of Syd Christensen.
- Tom Comber, born 1917 in Brunswick Vic, died 12 July 1978. Full name Thomas Redmond Comber (Coomber)
- Jack Grainger, born 16 August 1918 in Brixton (London), England, died 30 November 1977. Full name John Grainger.
- Alan Grice should be Allan Grice. Born 4 April 1908 in Strathfield NSW, died 18 November 1995. Full name Allan Cottrell Grice.
- Alf Griffiths should be Arthur Griffiths
- Harry Helmich, born 1 August 1908 in Paddington NSW, died 21 October 1969. Full name Henry John Helmich.
- Frederick Hockey, born 12 February 1907 in Newtown NSW, died 3 August 1983.
- Jack Kessey's DOB should be 23 March 1902 (instead of 17th).
- Tom Leamey should be Leamy. DOB should be 9 July 1897. (Another Wikipedia one, where the correct year of 1897 was even changed in this case).
- Fred Lind, born 16 June 1904 in Marrickville NSW, died 28 February 1976. Full name Frederick Charles Lind.
- Jeff Meades, born 26 September 1915 in Mortdale, near Hurstville NSW, died 13 April 1991. Full name Jeffrey David Meades.
- Jack Morelli, born 15 August 1904 in Camperdown NSW, died 2001. Full name John Alfred Morelli.
- Leo Tutty, born 18 December 1913 in Gundagai NSW, died 19 November 1971. Full name Leo Charles Tutty (not Leonard).
- Ron Tutty, born 9 April 1910 in Gundagai NSW, died 19 October 1955. Full name Ronald Edward Tutty. Brother of Leo Tutty.
- Richard Wilder should be Rowley Wilder. Born 18 February 1917 in Muswellbrook NSW. Full name Rowland Thomas Wilder.

GregRLP


Max Turner

- Lin McLean, birthplace should be Marrickville NSW. Brother of Kevin McLean.
- Arthur Elvy's first name should be Albert. Born 11 June 1913 in Redfern NSW, died 15 August 1974. Full name Albert Edward Elvy.
- Newtown's Jim Hall, born 3 July 1908 in Bowraville NSW, died 24 September 1986. Full name Oswald James Hall. Nickname was Ossie.
- Noel Hall, born 1932, died 22 March 2014. Full name Noel Herbert Hall. Son of Newtown's Jim Hall.
- Cliff Noble, born 17 November 1918 in Redfern NSW, died 9 October 2004. Full name Clifford Alfred Noble.
- Tom Thornton, born 3 August 1906 in Woollahra NSW, died 24 July 1983. Full name Thomas Henry Thornton. Played over 100 games for Newtown, most of which were in the lower grades.
- Gil Box, born in Sydney NSW.
- Bill Hendren, born in Sydney NSW.
- Rolly Wilder, born in Muswellbrook NSW.

GregRLP


Max Turner

- George Debnam, born 11 October 1920 in Goulburn NSW, died 16 October 2011.
- A Debnam was known as Alf, born 3 July 1917 in Goulburn NSW, died 24 August 2004. Full name Alfred William Debnam.
- The comment on George's page about playing for St George RU and Newtown RL concurrently should actually be on Alfred's page.
- Keith Froome's DOB should be 20 August 1920 (instead of 1921). Full name should be George Keith Froome (instead of Keith George)
- I agree that the correct name is Adrian Gleeson, rather than Alan Gleeson, however his DOB should be 26 July 1915 (instead of 1917). Wests Archives reports 1917, but Adrian's birth record is #38239/1915 and his grave says he was 58 when he died in 1973.
- Alan Hodgins' first name should be Andy (1, 2). Born 24 June 1916 in Newcastle NSW, died 16 July 1977. Full name Andrew Robert John Hodgins.
- Thomas Dawson, born 12 July 1917 in Newtown NSW, died 7 October 1997. Full name Thomas Haig Dawson.
- Frank Mulville, born 8 August 1915 in Maclean NSW, died 17 June 2003. Full name Francis James Mulville, nickname was Podgy.
- Jim Scoular, born 22 October 1921. The death date currently listed is for a different James Scoular. The correct date is 16 August 2011.
- Roy Street, born in Kurri Kurri NSW. Full name Roy George Street.
- Bill Raby, born 26 January 1917 in Young NSW, died 15 June 1988. Full name Charles William Raby Jnr
- Leo Ryan, born 20 April 1921 in Holbrook NSW (near Albury), died 17 June 2011. Full name Thomas Leo Ryan, nickname was Joe. Brother of Bill Ryan (Wests, St George) and Mat Ryan (St George)
- William Van Rugge: it appears van Rugge with a lowercase 'v' was the preferred spelling. Born 4 May 1921 in Petersham NSW, died 1997. Full name William Christian van Rugge

GregRLP

All fixed and updated.