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Eastern Suburbs v Penrith Sydney Sports Ground June 17, 1984

Started by Paul Carter, 02 March, 2022, 04:05:56 PM

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Paul Carter

Sorry to point this out. I notice for the game between Eastern Suburbs and Penrith at the Sydney Sports Ground on June 17, 1984.
-For Eastern Suburbs. You have Kevin Hastings as Captain.
-For Penrith. You have Ross Gigg as Captain.
-Kevin Hastings did not Captain Eastern Suburbs for this game.
-Ross Gigg did not Captain Penrith for this game.
-Shane McKellar was Eastern Suburbs Captain for this game Instead of Hastings.
-Mark Levy was Penrith Captain for this game Instead of Gigg.
-Also refer to roofromoz post from September 2, 2021. In regards to starting time from this game as well.

Max Turner

Round 16: Eastern Suburbs vs Penrith (17 June 1984)
As best I can tell, this game is the difference between whether Royce Simmons played 237 or 238 games for Penrith. A lot of sites list this game as one of Simmons' 238 games for Penrith, whereas RLP has Craig Connor as starting hooker (and therefore 237 career games for Simmons).

RL Tables lists Simmons as hooker, while @roofromoz's site has a discrepancy on whether he played (counted here towards Royce's 238, but Simmons not listed in the match page).

It appears to me Simmons did not play in this game, so RLP is correct, unless anyone has differing information. @Paul Carter?

Or maybe someone has another explanation to bring Simmons up to 238 games on RLP. Otherwise the recent reporting from the club and the media were unfortunately incorrect in listing Simmons with 238 games.

Some relevant excerpts from the Sydney Morning Herald:

Quote from: Sydney Morning Herald, 13 June 1984PENRITH: M Levy (c), B Lobb, R Gigg, K Wolffe, B Gonzales, B Izzard, G Alexander, P Burgmann, G Howell, W Fenton, J Vitanza, C Connor, M Goodwin.

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Penrith provided a surprise last night when they selected their talented lock Craig Connor as hooker for Sunday's match against Eastern Suburbs at the Sports Ground. Connor has impressed as a lock and, with Royce Simmons in the State side, coach Tim Sheens decided to utilise the hooking talents he displayed on a New Zealand tour of the State Under-18 team four years ago.
Quote from: Sydney Morning Herald, 18 June 1984Their usual skipper, Royce Simmons, who will hook for NSW in the State of Origin match against Queensland at the Sydney Cricket Ground on Tuesday night, was impressed. "They really played well - particularly in the second half," Simmons said.

GregRLP

Thanks Max.

Royce definitely did not play in this game he was in the NSW SoO team for the game the following Tuesday and none of the SoO players played that weekend. Craig Connor was in the selected team and played, the Big League review of the game states Penrith was without Simmons.

roofromoz

Quote from: Max Turner on 29 September, 2024, 12:44:46 PMRound 16: Eastern Suburbs vs Penrith (17 June 1984)
As best I can tell, this game is the difference between whether Royce Simmons played 237 or 238 games for Penrith. A lot of sites list this game as one of Simmons' 238 games for Penrith, whereas RLP has Craig Connor as starting hooker (and therefore 237 career games for Simmons).

RL Tables lists Simmons as hooker, while @roofromoz's site has a discrepancy on whether he played (counted here towards Royce's 238, but Simmons not listed in the match page).

It appears to me Simmons did not play in this game, so RLP is correct, unless anyone has differing information. @Paul Carter?

Or maybe someone has another explanation to bring Simmons up to 238 games on RLP. Otherwise the recent reporting from the club and the media were unfortunately incorrect in listing Simmons with 238 games.

Some relevant excerpts from the Sydney Morning Herald:

Quote from: Sydney Morning Herald, 13 June 1984PENRITH: M Levy (c), B Lobb, R Gigg, K Wolffe, B Gonzales, B Izzard, G Alexander, P Burgmann, G Howell, W Fenton, J Vitanza, C Connor, M Goodwin.

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Penrith provided a surprise last night when they selected their talented lock Craig Connor as hooker for Sunday's match against Eastern Suburbs at the Sports Ground. Connor has impressed as a lock and, with Royce Simmons in the State side, coach Tim Sheens decided to utilise the hooking talents he displayed on a New Zealand tour of the State Under-18 team four years ago.
Quote from: Sydney Morning Herald, 18 June 1984Their usual skipper, Royce Simmons, who will hook for NSW in the State of Origin match against Queensland at the Sydney Cricket Ground on Tuesday night, was impressed. "They really played well - particularly in the second half," Simmons said.


Thanks for bringing this to my attention - the results link corresponding to that 1984 match doesn't have him on the match list.

I'll add this to my off-season list of housekeeping amendments. :)
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