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1935 Balmain players

Started by Max Turner, 23 March, 2024, 06:26:28 PM

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Max Turner

- Bill Alexander was born in Balmain, NSW, and died on 26 June 1993. His full name was William Henry Alexander.
- Bill Ballard was born 18 March 1907 in Marrickville, NSW, and died on 11 April 1960. His full name was William Clarence Henry Ballard.
- Edmund Beaver's full name was Edmund Francis Beaver. He was born in Cobar, NSW and died on 21 July 1993.
- George Bishop died on 1 May 1972.
- Some minor corrections for Syd Christensen: His full name was Sydney Henry Albert Christensen and he was born in Glebe, NSW. Also, he was the uncle of Ted Brennan.
- Stephen Cooper was born 21 January 1913 in West Wyalong, NSW, and died on 29 June 1961. His full name was Stephen William Cooper.
- George Frankland was born 19 June 1906 in Balmain, NSW, and died on 17 October 1988. His full name was George Broughton Frankland, and his nickname was Pudden.
- Sid Goodwin was born in Balmain, NSW. He died on 24 March 1980.
- Frank Griffiths was born in Geelong, Vic.
- Francis Horth should be Frank Horth. His full name was Frank Edmund Horth. He was born 4 March 1910 in East Hills, Sydney, NSW, and died on 2 July 1975. [NB: Nearest location currently on the site for birthplace is Canterbury, NSW, where his birth was registered].
- Ern Latta's full name was Ernest Frederick Latta. He was born 13 July 1912 in Balmain, NSW, and died on 26 August 1979.
- Michael Pace's full name was Michael Henry Pace. He was born in Senglea, Malta, and died on 26 October 1960.
- Jack Redman was born in Canterbury, NSW, and died on 5 July 1945. His full name was John Robert Walter Redman.
- Gordon Sykes was born 7 September 1912 in Haberfield, Sydney, NSW, and died on 28 July 1995. His full name was Gordon Harold Sykes. [NB: Somehow there are no Haberfield births already on the site. In the meantime, his birth was registered in Ashfield, NSW.]
- Bill Williams was born 9 May 1909 in Balmain, NSW, and died on 16 July 1988. His full name was William Joseph Williams.
- Herbert Woodbry was born 5 March 1908 in Tenterfield, NSW, and died on 3 October 1987. His full name was Herbert Edward Woodbry, and his nickname was Bert.
- H Wright is listed as such in teamlists but he is referred to by his nickname Mick in articles (see here, and other mentions here and here). He was born 20 November 1911 in Petersham, NSW, and died on 2 October 1983. Mick's full name was Harold Alfred Wright.

And just a comment on Bill Williams, I think the 1937 NSW Firsts appearance vs Clarence River should be Bert Williams, who was playing for Bombala at that time. B. Williams of Bombala was selected as a reserve for the preceding match against Queensland, and The Sun reported that B. Williams played in the second-row against Clarence River. The confusion here probably also coming from the fact that Bill was typically a second-rower and Bert a centre.

GregRLP

All updated, you are correct with Bert Williams he was in the NSW team that went to Qld not Bill Williams so I have fixed that as well.

Ted Baxter

I had this as Mick as well due to the last attachment you listed.

Max Turner

- Jim Duckworth's full name should be James Joseph Duckworth.
- Sid Goodwin's date of death should be 24 March 1980 (I think he was accidentally given George Frankland's death date of 17 October 1988).
- Mal Fallon, born 13 January 1910 in Sydney NSW. Full name was Malachy John Fallon.
- J O'Dowd was Joseph O'Dowd, born 4 July 1909 in Woollahra NSW, died 20 May 1988. Full name was Joseph Charles O'Dowd.
- Charlie Richards, born 31 August 1911 in Balmain NSW, died 23 August 1967. Full name was Charles Cornelius Richards.
- Norm Robinson's DOB should be 29 January 1901.
- Len Rue, born 11 April 1910 in Canbelego, near Cobar NSW, died 25 May 1967. Full name was Leonard James Rue.
- Lex Small, born 4 August 1907 in Murrumburrah NSW, died 16 February 1965. Full name was Keiran Alexis Small.
- J Stapleton was James Stapleton, born 17 July 1910 in Balmain NSW, died 22 November 1983. Full name was James Patrick Stapleton, and nickname was Bus.
- The J Stapleton who played for Western Divison in 1920 would therefore be a different person.
- Arthur Toby was born in Sydney NSW. His middle name was Edward.
- Les Trusler was born in Casino NSW. Full name was Leslie Ernest Trusler.
- Gerald Fitzpatrick (Balmain, North Coast, North Sydney), born 14 June 1902 in Balmain NSW, died on 7 August 1983. Full name was Gerald Richard Fitzpatrick, and brother of Dudley Fitzpatrick. The 1974 game for Brisbane should be the other Gerald Fitzpatrick, the one who actually was born in 1950.
- Eddie Lockhart, born 28 June 1915 in Orange NSW, died 28 October 1995. Full name was Edward Lockhart.
- Jack Pidcock, born 12 August 1912 in Petersham NSW, died 2 June 1999. Full name was William John Pidcock.
- Des Stapleton was born in Leichhardt NSW, died 25 September 1985. Full name was Desmond Francis Stapleton.
- Ben Weber, born 20 February 1904 in Taree NSW, died 8 February 1999. Full name was Benedict Weber. He was a cousin of A Kidd who he played alongside for North Coast.
- A Kidd was Andrew Kidd, born 2 November 1903 in Taree NSW, died 8 November 1992. Full name was Andrew Earl Kidd.

GregRLP


Max Turner

- I think Joe Acheson should be Jim Acheson. There's a mention in Rugby League News that J Acheson's birthday is 16 June (year not stated).
- There is a Joseph Acheson who was born in Leichhardt, but he was 16 years old for most of the 1937 season (his birthday was 19 August, so doesn't match). Therefore, I think this player's details are: born 16 June 1915 in Balmain NSW, died on 27 October 1977. Full name James Henry Acheson.

- Dave Colless should be spelled Colliss. Born 7 July 1911 in Wagga Wagga NSW, died 26 June 2004. Full name David Edward Colliss.
- Stan Cowie, born 19 April 1911 in Townsville Qld, died 17 July 1989. Full name Stanley Charles Cowie.
- Norm Cox, born 27 August 1908 in Wellington NSW, died 1 February 1965. Full name Norman Mowella James Cox.
- Maurice Fitzgerald, born in Glebe NSW. Full name Maurice Michael Fitzgerald.
- Tommy Grahame, born 21 September 1913 in Lambton, in Newcastle NSW, died in 1995. Full name Thomas L Grahame.

- Frank Johnston, born 12 August 1914 in Balmain NSW, died 25 July 1981. Full name Frank Ernest Johnston. He was the brother-in-law of George Frankland (Frank was married to George's sister Sadie)
- Also: Frank Horth was married to Marjorie Frankland, sister of George Frankland, in 1935. They divorced in 1942.
- During those years, Frank Horth was a brother-in-law of both George Frankland and Frank Johnston (I guess this is worth noting despite the divorce?)

- Jim Murden, born 22 November 1912 in Drummoyne NSW, died 1 November 1961. His full name was James Edward Murden. He was also known as Mendelssohn Myhill Murden, which explains why his appearances for Balmain were reported as M. Murden or M. M. Murden. His birth record is under one name, but he was baptised under the other!
- Roy Palmer, born 23 August 1911 in Glebe NSW, died 14 November 2002. Full name Roy James Edward Palmer.
- Greg Toner, born 16 July 1911 in Waterloo NSW, died 14 January 1992. Full name Gregory Francis Toner.
- William Bischoff's DOB should be 26 September 1912, instead of October. His birthplace should be Maitland NSW. His full name was William James Bischoff.
- William Bischoff Jnr's death date should be 6 June 2023, instead of July.

GregRLP


Max Turner

#7
- George Barr, born in Balmain NSW, died 17 April 2003. Full name George Thomas Barr.
- Jack Caplice, born 8 December 1912 in Petersham NSW, died 25 May 1985. Full name John Edward Caplice.
- Harold Matthews was known as Harry Matthews (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). Born 19 July 1909 in Wigan, England, died 16 March 1972. Full name was actually Henry Matthews, not Harold as Alan Whiticker's bio states.
- F Matthews was Frank Matthews. Born 23 July 1907 in Wigan, England, died 27 October 1976. He was the brother of Harry Matthews.
- F Hickey (Balmain) was Francis Hickey, born 28 June 1912 in Glebe NSW, died 12 October 1978. Full name Francis Gregory Hickey.
- Darcy Kearney, born in Queanbeyan NSW, died 13 October 1977. Full name Darcy Michael Kearney.
- Jim Quealey, born in Sydney NSW. Full name James Leslie Quealey.
- John Rees' (Balmain) birth date should be 3 October 1915 instead of 1916. Born in Redfern NSW, died 21 January 1992. Full name John Frederick Rees.
- H Timms was Harry Timms, born 18 December 1915 in Balmain NSW, died 30 March 1986. Full name Herbert Humphrey Timms.
- Jack Winchester, born 4 January 1918 in Leichhardt NSW, died 8 May 1992. Full name Richard John Winchester. He was the father of Peter Winchester.

Also, if you feel the administrator Harold Matthews (namesake of Harold Matthews Cup) warrants a profile (despite never playing or coaching), his details are:
- Born 31 May 1899 in Drummoyne NSW, died 3 November 1971. Full name Harold Roy Matthews.

GregRLP

Thanks again Max I have updated all of these and added a profile for Harold Matthews.

Max Turner

- Jack Chin, born 21 October 1905 in St Peters NSW, died 19 April 1970. Full name John Crooks Chin.
- M Chin was Malcolm Chin, born 14 October 1918 in Balmain NSW, died 29 October 1969. Full name Malcolm George Chin. Brother of Jack Chin.
- Keith Dallwitz, born in Leeton NSW. Full name Keith Bernhard Dallwitz.
- Hec Day, born 23 July 1911, died 12 December 1974. Full name Hector Matthew Day.
- George Endycott, born 11 September 1918 in Rozelle NSW, died 2 March 2009. Full name George Timothy Endycott.
- Jack Folkard, born 28 July 1906 in Leichhardt NSW, died 5 August 1964. Full name John Stanley Folkard. Son of first-class cricketer Bert Folkard.
- Alfie Johnson was born in Balmain NSW.
- Harry Lapham was born 25 January 1915 in Sydney NSW, died 24 March 2007. Full name was Henry John Lapham.
- Wal Maizey, born 20 July 1901 in Balmain NSW, died 20 March 1974. Full name Walter James Maizey.
- Cliff McDonald, born 5 May 1917 in Petersham NSW, died 21 August 2000. Full name Clifford Alfred McDonald.
- Les Moore, born 28 March 1907 in Launceston, Tasmania, died 1 February 1987. Full name Leslie Gordon Moore, nickname was Ockie. The listed connections to the Mullane family seem to be errors.
- Andy Nicol, born 1904 in Glasgow, Scotland, died 12 April 1952. Full name Andrew Nicol Jnr. Andy Nicol's death was announced in Rugby League News, misspelled as Andy Nicholls, so I suspect he is the same person as A Nicholls who played for Balmain in 1926.
- Frank Schultz should be Fred Schultz (1, 2, 3). Born 5 October 1914 in Balmain NSW, died 19 July 1976. Full name Frederick Richard Schultz. Nephew of Balmain's Bill Schultz.
- Balmain's Bill Schultz, born in Balmain NSW, died 25 February 1975. Full name William James Schultz.
- Balmain's George Williams, born 27 June 1923 in Drummoyne NSW, died on 3 July 1995. His full name was George Harry Williams.
- Jack Winchester's DOB should be 4 January 1918, instead of April.

GregRLP

Thanks Max all have been updated.

I think you are right with Andy Nicol in 1927 the first 2 games A.Nicholls is listed in jersey #16 in reserve grade but after that A.Nicol is jersey #16.

Max Turner

- George Beaman, born 17 April 1912 in Balmain NSW, died 20 July 1999. Full name George Edward Beaman.
- Stan Donegan, born 6 May 1906 in Balmain NSW, died 22 May 1969. Full name Michael Stanley Donegan.
- Tom Freney, born 4 January 1918 in Balmain NSW, died 27 January 2001. Full name Thomas Edward Bede Freney.
- E Fulham was Edward Fulham, born 12 January 1907 in Sydney NSW, died 24 July 1988. Full name Edward Henry Fulham.
- Harry Lapham was born in Sydney NSW.
- Edward Fulham, Harry Lapham, and Ernie Lapham are cousins.
- L Hanratty was Les Hanratty, born 21 June 1910 in Balmain NSW, died 9 April 1982. Full name Leslie James George Hanratty.
- Frank Hyde, born in Sydney NSW. Full name Francis Patrick Hyde.
- L Knight was Lindsay Knight, born 13 July 1909 in Gulargambone NSW, died 26 February 1965. Full name Lindsay Eric Knight, nickname was Digger.
- Jack McVicar, born in Casino NSW, died 13 January 1982. Full name John Lawrence McVicar.
- Balmain's George Mullins, born in Wellington NZ. Full name George Arthur Mullins.
- Mitchell Wallace, born in Glebe NSW, died 27 August 2016. Full name Mitchell William Wallace.
- The earlier George Watt who played for Australia: born Balmain NSW. Full name George James Watt.
- George and his brother Neville were nephews of Horace Watt.
- Horace Watt's death date should be 11 September 1969 (instead of 1979).
- George Wise, born in Balmain NSW, died 21 June 2006. Full name George Charles Wise.

GregRLP


GregRLP

Max,

I have details on Edward Fulham from another contributor that his DOB is 1/4/1907 not 12/1/1907 as per Ancestry.com

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Max Turner

#14
Hi Greg,
I've attached a screenshot showing the details for Edward Henry Fulham appearing in several family trees on Ancestry.com. Some people are listing 12/01/1907, while others have 01/04/1907.

Ancestry.com has a great collection of records, but I'm always cautious about the research published by users. Incorrect information seems to have a way of being copied around the website as I think most people are not actually analysing or verifying anything when they create their family tree. In this case, I can't even find an explanation for where 01/04/1907 has come from (sometimes it's actually the baptism date, or perhaps the DOB is for someone else with a similar name). I always double check everything I'm submitting against the actual NSW birth register website, which is where I found the correct date to be 12/01/1907.

Happy to go into more detail if that would help!