1934-35 North Sydney players

[Max Turner]

- John Abel was born in Paddington, NSW. His full name was John McNab Abel.
- Bill Brewer (North Sydney) was born 3 October 1906 in Maitland, NSW and died on 7 October 1996. His full name was William James Brewer.
- Noel Ferrier was born 31 December 1913 in Marrickville, NSW and died on 18 November 2001.
- Harry Forbes was born in Leichhardt, NSW.
- Ray Gillam was born in Berry, NSW. His full name was John Raymond Gillam.
- Rex Harrison's date of death should be 25 July 1996, instead of the 26th.
--Sidenote: His son Peter Harrison (North Sydney) was born 27 July 1941 in North Sydney, NSW and died in 2024. His full name was Peter John Harrison.
- Bob Izzard was born 11 January 1914 in Chatswood, NSW, and died on 1 June 1969. His full name was Robert Hector Izzard.
- A Lyons was known as Bert Lyons.
- Jack McDonough was born 14 July 1915 in St Leonards, NSW, and died on 14 September 1986. His full name was John Ignatius McDonough.
- Stan Ridgway's DOB should be 7 August 1913 in St Leonards, NSW. It appears the incorrect date (8 Aug 1915) was taken from his military file. The correct date is listed on his birth record and on his grave marker.
- Chris Schiemer's full name was Christopher Daniel Schiemer. He was born 2 July 1907 in Coolah, NSW, and died on 1 October 1981.
- E Stanwell was Eric Stanwell. He was born 21 May 1910 in Chatswood, NSW, and died on 11 August 1966. His full name was Eric George Stanwell.
- Roy Thompson was born in Trundle, near Condobolin, NSW. His full name was Roy Macgregor Thompson. His date of death should be 9 March 2001.
- V Beaumont was Vern Beaumont. He was the brother of T Beaumont.
- J Campbell was Jim Campbell.
- Ron Eaton was born 28 January 1909 in St Leonards, NSW, and died on 13 May 1960. His full name was Harry Ronald Eaton. He was also a first-class cricketer for NSW.
- Gordon Fletcher was born in Parkes, NSW. His full name was Gordon Thomas Fletcher.
- Ron Luscombe was born 17 June 1913 in Mosman, NSW, and died on 6 December 1977. His full name was Ronald Arthur Luscombe.
- Frank McGuren was born 15 October 1909 in Grafton, NSW, and died on 13 June 1990. His full name was Francis William McGuren. He was the MP for Cowper from 1961 to 1963.
- Edward Shepherd's date of death should be 6 January 1935, instead of the 5th.
- K Small (North Sydney) was Ken Small.

[GregRLP]

Thanks Max all updated.

[Ted Baxter]

I can confirm the Bert Lyons bit (see attached) from RL News V17 N9 p20

[Max Turner]

- Herbie Abel, born 4 September 1909 in Paddington NSW, died 22 January 1986. Full name Herbert Norman Abel. Brother of Johnny Abel.
- Dick Allerton, born 30 July 1917 in Willoughby, near Chatswood NSW, died 14 March 1977. Full name Edward Richard Allerton.
- Fred Bulger, born 10 March 1913 in Ryde NSW, died 6 February 1981. Full name Joseph Frederick Bulger.
- Arch Crippin's full name should be Archibald James Crippin (instead of just 'Arch').
- Doug Deitz's birthplace should be Murwillumbah NSW instead of Mullumbimby.
- Herb Dhu, born 12 August 1917 in Maclean NSW, died 22 August 1984. Full name Herbert Roderick Silverton Dhu. Brother of Fred Dhu.
- William Hanley, born 23 June 1910 in St Leonards NSW, died 25 December 1966. Full name William Roan Hanley. He was known as Bill. He was the brother-in-law of Fred and Herb Dhu.
- Wally Hamill, born 11 February 1906 in Sydney NSW, died 2 May 1988. Full name Walter Leslie Reginald Hamill.
- Sid Harmer, born 20 July 1912 in Lambton, in Newcastle NSW, died 13 April 2000. Full name Sydney George Harmer.
- Clarrie Mitchelson, born 18 March 1910 in Sydney NSW, died 1 May 1978. Full name Clarence Aaron Mitchelson.
- Dave McErlane, born 20 October 1914 in Glasgow, Scotland, died 8 December 2005. Full name David McErlane.
- Noel Walpole, born 30 December 1908 in Oakey, near Toowoomba QLD, died 11 January 1976.
- George Williams, born 31 January 1905 in West Wyalong NSW, died 7 June 1975. Full name George Patrick Williams. Brother of Thomas Williams, the MP for Robertson from 1943 to 1949.

[GregRLP]

Thanks Max all updated.

[Max Turner]

- Vern Beaumont, born 20 January 1909 in Waverley NSW, died 30 January 2000. Full name Walter Vernon Beaumont.
- J Bradley was Jimmy Bradley, born 1 June 1915 in Lithgow NSW, died 4 August 1987. Full name James Ford Bradley. He would be the same person as Group 10's J Bradley, as he also played in Lithgow and Bathurst.
- B Clifford was Bernard Clifford, born 19 January 1904 in Wollongong NSW, died 15 September 1968. Full name Bernard Joseph Clifford.
- Herb Dhu's DOB should be 12 August 1917 (instead of 11th).
- Ron Hyde, born 7 July 1914 in Lane Cove, near Chatswood NSW, died 30 June 1978. Full name Carl Ronald Hyde.
- Billy Kelleway: might be a minor thing, but he seems to get a few newspaper mentions as Bill, not Billy. He was born in Leichhardt NSW, and died on 31 May 2005. Full name Walter Leonard Kelleway.
- J Kirby was Jack Kirby, born 15 December 1910 in Tamworth NSW, died 25 April 2005. Full name Jack Galbraith Kirby.
- Bert Lyons, born 1 January 1908 in Sydney NSW, died 26 May 1990. Full name Albert John Lyons.
- Bill O'Toole, born 18 March 1911 in Kalgoorlie WA, died 9 July 1994. Full name William Percival O'Toole.
- Jimmy Page, born 12 July 1907 in Hunters Hill in Sydney NSW, died 20 October 1982. Full name James Page.
- Stan Ridgway's year of birth should be 1913.
- Noel Walpole's death date should be 11 January 1976 (instead of December).

- WestsArchive lists the second middle name of 'Ashberry' for Ken Sherwood. This is incorrect; Ashberry was the name of their residence so it makes the electoral rolls appear as "Sherwood, Frank Knyvet, Ashberry, Cotswold Rd, Strathfield." (The comma between 'Knyvet' and 'Ashberry' is a bit faded, which has probably contributed to the error). 'Ashberry' does not appear on his birth, marriage, or death records, and does not appear in electoral rolls when he's living at any other address.

- Do you have any information on J Loughrey who played halfback for Norths' lower grades in 1931? I think he would be the same person as Frank Loughrey, as the person I've identified is: born 17 February 1909 in Parramatta NSW, died 19 October 1946. Full name Justin Edmund Loughrey, but was known as Frank.

[GregRLP]

All updated, I have adjusted Billy Kelleway to Bill and advised the Wests Archive on Ken Sherwood.

I don't have any additional details for J Loughrey but what you say seems reasonable and I have updated Frank Loughrey with these details.

[GregRLP]

Wests Archive now updated for Ken Sherwood.

[Max Turner]

- Bill O'Toole, born 18 March 1911 in Kalgoorlie WA, died 9 July 1994. Full name William Percival O'Toole.

Just noting this one didn't seem to save as Bill's details are still missing.

- Claude Blundell, born 6 April 1908 in Brooklyn NSW, died 3 May 1987. Full name Stanley Claude Blundell
- Artie Carnell, born 24 May 1909 in Dungog NSW. Full name Arthur Lewis Carnell Jnr
- Jack Costa, born 9 January 1906 in Geelong Vic, died 25 August 1963. Full name John Thomas Costa
- Vic Hill, born 20 December 1898 in St Helens, England, died 23 September 1979. Full name Percival Victor Hill, and nickname was Albo. He switched to rugby league in 1932, aged 33, after representing New South Wales and Victoria in rugby union. (1, 2, 3)
- Bill Leckie, born 9 October 1909 in West Wallsend, Newcastle, NSW, died 13 November 1993. Full name William Leckie
- I'd say Charles Pickrang was best known as Ted Pickrang (almost every newspaper mention is under this name). But he also appears occasionally as Charlie Pickrang. Born 9 August 1907 in Wellington NZ, died 16 October 1991. Full name Charles Edward Pickrang. Described as Māori, a Pacific Islander, or Zulu, his father was actually from St Croix in what is now the U.S. Virgin Islands.
- Ken Wood, born 15 May 1906 in Petersham NSW. Full name Kenneth Thomas Wood. He was killed in action in New Guinea.

[GregRLP]

All updated.

[Max Turner]

- Ron Buffett, born 20 October 1918 on Norfolk Island, died 19 May 1991. Full name Rowland Henry Buffett.
- Keith Carroll, born 23 April 1921 in Willoughby NSW, died 24 June 2011. Full name Keith Leslie Carroll. I suspect the Keith Carroll who played for South Sydney is a different person. SSR Almanac website does not list the Souths player as a former North Sydney player. If it is the same person, he would have been aged 38 in his final season after a nine year absence from first grade.
- Roy Carroll, born 6 January 1915 in Sydney NSW, died 14 July 2001. Full name Roy Matthew Carroll. Brother of North Sydney's Keith Carroll.
- Jack Grubb, born 12 November 1917 in Ashburton, Canterbury NZ, died 24 September 1972. Full name John Chaytor Grubb IV
- Lester Hough, born 1 September 1918 in Maclean NSW, died 7 April 1998. Full name Lester William Desmond Hough.
- Bruce McPhail, born 26 May 1915 in Wallerawang, near Lithgow NSW, died 24 August 2002. Full name Allan Bruce McPhail.
- Eric Pitt's DOB should be 26 September 1941 (instead of July).
- Gerald Scully should be Gerard Scully, although Gerald also appears in newspapers. Born 21 November 1920 in Annandale NSW. Full name Gerard Patrick Scully. Brother of Ted Scully.
- Ted Scully, born 19 May 1919 in Annandale NSW, died 1 March 1983. Full name should be Edmund Scully (instead of Edward).
- Lloyd Stephenson, born 2 May 1917 in Willoughby NSW, died 6 July 2011. Full name Lloyd Winston Stephenson.
- Walter Worrad, born 15 August 1915 in Hurstville NSW, died 19 May 1997. Full name Walter John Worrad.

[Max Turner]

Continuing on from the last post:

- F Salmon was Fred Salmon who had represented Queensland. Born 17 January 1904 in Darlinghurst NSW, died 4 August 1987. Full name Frederick Henry Salmon.
- Joe Montgomery, born 11 May 1901 in St Leonards NSW, died 23 November 1972. Full name Stanley Joseph Montgomery.
- Eric Neville, born 5 November 1913 in Singleton NSW, died 22 June 1943. Died in a motorcycle accident at Greta, New South Wales while serving during WWII.
- Leo Reilly, born 15 August 1915 in Paddington NSW, died 25 December 2003. Full name Lionel Vincent Reilly.

- The J Groves who played for North Sydney in 1940 was Johnny Groves. Born 17 September 1914 in Sydney NSW, died 12 September 1993. Full name John William Groves.
- I'm not sure whether he would have been the same player for Norths in 1931 (he would have been 16 if so). Here's a bit of a bio to add to his profile in some form (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7):

Standing 6ft 3in tall and weighing about 16st, Johnny's rugby union career began in 1933 with North Sydney Swimming Club. He later joined Northern Suburbs and represented New South Wales from 1937 to 1939 before switching to rugby league in 1940. He represented the AIF rugby union team during WWII, and applied to be readmitted to rugby union following the war. He was also a noted cricketer and swimmer.

[GregRLP]

Sorry Max I've missed these last 2 posts at the moment there are some issues with RLP and I can't save player details hopefully it will be working tomorrow.

[GregRLP]

I've updated all these.

I'd be pretty sure from reading the news articles and his age that the 1931 Norths players is a different J Groves and the North Sydney web site does give them 2 different player numbers, I have split them now as 2 different players.

[Max Turner]

- Artie Carnell, DOB should be 24 May 1909 (instead of 9 June).
- Bernard Clifford was born in Wollongong NSW.
- Jack Balmain, died 21 October 2001. Full name John Edward Balmain. He would be the same person as J Balmain who played for Australian XIII as he later moved to Victoria
- H Bartley's first name was Harry. Born 5 January 1906 in Gunnedah NSW, died 20 April 1968. Nickname was Tibby. He was also known as Harold Bartley in newspapers, but his full name was simply Harry Bartley.
- W Hagney's first name was William. Born 11 October 1903 in Macksville NSW, died 7 July 1975. Full name William Alexander Hagney.
- D Haslett's first name was Donald. Born 29 June 1915 in Mudgee NSW, died 18 October 2000. Full name Donald James Haslett.
- Cecil Johnson, born 17 June 1902 in St Leonards NSW, died 17 January 1976. Full name Joseph Cecil Johnson.
(NB: I haven't looked too thoroughly, but I haven't been able to confirm the nickname of Charlie for Cecil)
- Harold Johnson, born 18 July 1906 in St Leonards NSW, died 9 March 1988.
- Jimmy Johnson, born 6 October 1904 in St Leonards NSW, died 30 September 1971. Full name James Henry Johnson.
- Pat Morgan, born 30 November 1917 in North Sydney NSW, died 14 July 1975. Full name Patrick Thomas Morgan.

- J Meyer: first name was Jack. In most newspapers, his surname appears to have been either Meyers (rather than Meyer) or Myers.
- N McKenzie's first name was Noel.
- K Watson's first name was Keith.

- Mick Bourke: There are a few articles about a 'Mick Bourke', but it's not clear to me whether it's the same person. Every article that is definitely related to this player calls him Brian, which was his real name, so the nickname 'Mick' might be an error (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). Born 4 September 1910 in Mosman NSW, died 24 July 1947. Full name Brian Vincent Bourke. He is the same person as Brian Bourke who played for Young.